far better conversations with people who watch 
television 15 hours a day than I ever do with the so-
called scholars and intellectuals at Harvard, Yale or 
anywhere else. Those people are dead! Those 
people are lost! They cannot negotiate in this world 
of television and popular music. We have to 
embolden the young people first of all, to demand 
as we did in the ‘60s, an end to any kind of false 
abstraction in their education. I believe history 
should be taught. Now here is where my message—
people say I’m conservative. What are they talking 
about? To teach history? To teach the history of 
the human race, the history of the art forms, 
that’s conservative? That’s ridiculous! That is